Alonso Pushes Badoer Aside

[JoStream]

I'm not informed about the exact details of the incident, but Fernando Alonso apparently pushed Luca Badoer off the track in what was described by one news site as "totally unnecessary" :confused:

Brings back memories from I think the Hungarian Grand Prix where he pretended as if he would crash into another driver.:mad:

Which brings up a totally different question. Can unfair behavior be punished during F1 testing sessions?

[Carlis]

I have found this at youtube:

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And, in my not biased opinion (:p) it is clearly Alonso's fault... Luca is taking the corner on the outside, Alonso has THE WHOLE FREAKING line to go, and still goes straight against the italian... Not a surprising move from Mr. Alonso; after all he has already shown that he is a driver with no class in victory, with no pride in defeat, and with a total lack of respect for everyone else in the F1 :mad:

Hope the FIA will have a very close eye on his extremely unsporting behavior all season long :mad:

[F1 Today]

He had ample space to get through. It really does annoy me because although Schumacher played 'mind games' with Alonso (e.g. The pit incident at Hockenheim), he never drove him / into him off the circuit.

[Driverdb]

I think it boilds down to this:

The track was wet Alonso takes the inside line a bit too quickly and understeers into Badoer. I think it's called "a stupid mistake". :D

[JoStream]

I think it boilds down to this:

The track was wet Alonso takes the inside line a bit too quickly and understeers into Badoer. I think it's called "a stupid mistake". :D

Couldn't agree more. The footage shows clearly how Alonso drifts out. Could also have been an "overly optimistic" overtaking attempt by him :rolleyes:

[Carlis]

The problem with Alonso is that most, if not all, of his moves are "optimistic manouvres". People now is starting to move away from him, so he is not crashing as often as he used to be, but is more "survival instinct" from his competitors than his own merit.

JPM used to crash a lot, but because the other drivers tried to fight with him; and he was cool when you had a crash with him. With Alonso, if he crashes you, it is your fault and you will have to deal with Alonso moving the media against you for a few days until his anger has calmed down; but if he passes you because you decided that you better let him go or he will put your car (and his) on the grass then he is simply brilliant... :rolleyes:

What he did with Badoer is an example of that. He expects everyone to brake and let him go through the corner, or else... Badoer didn't brake, he let him enough space for Alonso to pass; not good enough for the Spaniard, he cannot simply "pass", he has to make it look as an amazing feat from mankind :mad:

[JoStream]

I know what you mean Carlis, and your right about Fernando Alonso to a certain extent.

However I do think Alonso can be a fair player, more than other champions have been. My best example would be Turkey 2006 (I think), where he let Michael pass at a deciding moment in the championship. Do you think Michael Schumacher for example, would have done the same? :wonder:

[Carlis]

Jo, in the last two years, how many dubious incidents can you recall from Schumacher?

I can recall:
1. Monaco'06. He makes a mistake, tries to improvise in the WORST possible way.
2. Hungary'06. He keeps his position by jumping the chicane.
3. Turkey'05. Crashes with a lapped Webber who was trying to get in the same lap as Schumacher, who was (if I recall Correctly) in P13 by that moment.
4. Australia'05. He crashes with Heidfeld, fighting for P8.

Add that to the fact that he never criticized his team... when Ferrari won, it was the or victory as a team, when they were defeated, they were defeated as a team.

And, from Alonso, ones that come to the top of my head...
1. Monza'06. Jumps the chicane to gain the position on Heidfeld. He *almost* also got the position of Button there.
2. Turkey'06. Crashes with Doornbos at the end of Free Practice 2.
3. Hungary'06. Brake-test Doornbos during Free Practice 2.
4. Hungary'06. Brake-test Schumacher, forcing the german to overtake him under red-flag, generating a penalty for the Ferrari driver.
5. Hungary'05. Crashes against Ralf Schumacher on turn 1, blames the german for not moving away :eek:
6. Monaco'05. Jumps the chicane to defend his position.

And, if we push the envelope a little bit more, we have two of the most stupid actions in motorsport ever: Monaco'04 "passing" Ralf on the outside of the tunnel, and Brazil'03...

Yes, you can say that parking the car at Monaco is worst than all that, and that Oz'94 and Jerez'97 will never be matched again in history books (ignoring Senna's actions in the process, but that is a different debate)... But is it really worst than winning back to back championships with a car that the very same technical staff of RenautF1 accepts to be against the regulations in the FIA court of Appeal? Can you imagine what would have happened if you exchange the role of Schumacher/Alonso and Renault/Ferrari in my list of incidents, and with the Mass Damper affair?

Alonso is a dirty driver, that has been blessed for a media that was ignoring all his faults with the only intention to see Schumacher beaten. I am not saying Schumacher was a clean player, but Alonso is not angel either