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saltysurprise
29th May 2007, 05:43 AM
Has got to be the Chevrolet Small Block.
Probably the most versitile, reliable and modifiable. And the fact that the block has remained relativley unchanged for over 50 years should say something.
Ryan
29th May 2007, 04:49 PM
I say the Ford Cosworth DFV. 90-degree 3-litre V8 making between 400-500bhp. It provided a combination never seen in F1 before or since of power, light weight, reliability, and low cost.
Developed in in 1966 it won the first race it was ever used in at the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort in 1967 by Jim Clark in a Lotus.
In 262 F1 races in which it was used between 1967 and 1985 it had 155 wins. It powed 12 F1 drivers champions, 10 constructors winners.
In other uses it powered 2 LeMans 24 hour winners, 6 F3000 champions, and the turbo charged version won 10 Indy 500's and 9 CART championships.
NetOz
15th Aug 2007, 05:23 AM
I say the Ford Cosworth DFV. 90-degree 3-litre V8 making between 400-500bhp. It provided a combination never seen in F1 before or since of power, light weight, reliability, and low cost.
Developed in in 1966 it won the first race it was ever used in at the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort in 1967 by Jim Clark in a Lotus.
In 262 F1 races in which it was used between 1967 and 1985 it had 155 wins. It powed 12 F1 drivers champions, 10 constructors winners.
In other uses it powered 2 LeMans 24 hour winners, 6 F3000 champions, and the turbo charged version won 10 Indy 500's and 9 CART championships.
:thumbsup: the best
saltysurprise
15th Aug 2007, 05:31 AM
I say the Ford Cosworth DFV. 90-degree 3-litre V8 making between 400-500bhp. It provided a combination never seen in F1 before or since of power, light weight, reliability, and low cost.
In other uses it powered 2 LeMans 24 hour winners, 6 F3000 champions, and the turbo charged version won 10 Indy 500's and 9 CART championships.
With it's propensity of being a racing engine (not found in your average vehicle) and it's limited life span, personally I don't think it cuts the mustard. The versatility of the Chev SB trumps it IMO.
:thumbsup: the best
C'mon, you can do better than that:thumbsup:
NetOz
15th Aug 2007, 05:38 AM
With it's propensity of being a racing engine (not found in your average vehicle) and it's limited life span, personally I don't think it cuts the mustard. The versatility of the Chev SB trumps it IMO.
C'mon, you can do better than that:thumbsup:
Ok :lol:
The engine was so competitive that at the end of 1967 Ford had to gently explain to Colin Chapman that he would no longer have a monopoly on it in 1968, but the Lotus boss took it with good grace. What followed was a golden age, where teams big or small could buy an engine which was competitive, light, compact, and relatively cheap (£7,500 at 1967 prices or about £90,000 in 2005 money). The DFV effectively replaced the coventryclimax as the standard F1 powerplant.
1969 and 1973 every World Championship race was won by DFV-powered cars
EIR Loe.307
15th Aug 2007, 05:38 AM
I have to go with the Chevy 350 as well. It was out in 1955 and is still kicking. You can find it (in variations) in all kinds of racing. You can find it in Dirt track, drag racing, touring car, drifting, boats, anything. I've seen an LS1 in a Porche 911, and a 350 in an old VW bug. They're everywhere. I do appreciate the other engine's versatility though. I'm also a Chevy man at heart so I'm biased.
(Edit) Oh and you can't beat the price. You can get into a 350 for almost nothing. You can get a rebuilt one for about $1k US all the way up to a race motor for $13k+ The LS1 (LS6, LS7) are even avail. these days for not too much (relatively speaking). I'd love to toss an LS6 in an Atom instead of the 2.0 liter ecotech.
Ryan
15th Aug 2007, 06:22 AM
When was the last time you could get a top of the line F1 engine for the equivilant of $130 000?
Being a dominent power plant in F1, and doing so remaining almost unchanged for almost 20 years, is IMO greater than the Chevy SB lasting in regular use for as long as it has.
How well do you think the current Ferrari engine would fare in 18 years?
saltysurprise
15th Aug 2007, 01:45 PM
I guess I should have been clearer in my thread title:rolleyes:.
It's called, 'Greatest Engine of all time', NOT 'Greatest F1 Engine of all time'. That's why it's not in the F1 forum;):p
Sorry for the confusion. Some of you guys have a one track mind:lol: Sheesh!!
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