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saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 05:39 AM
Well now Jo has a chance to play along:D. This one should be really easy for many of you, so other than the tiny picture, I can't offer you up many clues:cool:. Do your sleuthing.

Who was this F1 driver? And, he is the only F1 driver in history to hold 'this' distinction. What is it.

Ryan
6th Jul 2007, 05:45 AM
Hmm, not a lot to go on there....

But I'll wager it's Canadian Al Pease.

He holds the dubious distiction of being the only F1 driver to be DQ'd for being too slow. Which occured at the 1969 Canadian GP at Mosport.

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 05:53 AM
Nooooo. Sorry. If I showed his face it would be a dead give away. He's not North American.

There are at least 6 clues between this post and my first one.

I'll bet we have this one solved by the weekend:cool:

Ryan
6th Jul 2007, 05:59 AM
Is it John Love?

But I don't know what his distinction could be...:confused:

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 06:01 AM
Hey Ryan, if you think you have it, PM me your answer, just so the the other half of the world can give it a crack. If you get it before they do, I'll give you the kudo's:thumbsup:. I figured you'd have it right away:lol:. This offer expires in 8 hours:lol:. Good luck!

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 06:04 AM
Is it John Love?

But I don't know what his distinction could be...:confused:

Negative.

What am I talking about:confused:. Guess all you want:lol:. You'll know when it's right:cool:

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 01:57 PM
Alright, here's a little more help.

His life story is an interesting one, albeit a tragic one. He has one Formula One Championship to his name and he passed away before he was 30.

That makes it tooo easy;).

JoStream
6th Jul 2007, 02:54 PM
That is really difficult. There are only very few clues that you can use when trying to hunt down this driver.

From the design of the car we know it's probably a Lotus 44 from the 1960s.

My guess it's Pedro Rodriguez. I'm not sure what his distinction is though :wonder:

Ryan
6th Jul 2007, 03:32 PM
That is really difficult. There are only very few clues that you can use when trying to hunt down this driver.

From the design of the car we know it's probably a Lotus 44 from the 1960s.

My guess it's Pedro Rodriguez. I'm not sure what his distinction is though :wonder:

I guessed Pedro Rodriguez aswell. But as a Mexican that makes him North American.:confused:

And the car is definatly a Cooper Maserati.

JoStream
6th Jul 2007, 04:10 PM
His life story is an interesting one, albeit a tragic one. He has one Formula One Championship to his name and he passed away before he was 30.

That makes it tooo easy;).

Although I'm not convinced, it would probably be Mike Hawthorn, who won the 1958 F1 title and died a few months before turning 30. Neither the Ferrari he drove then, or the Cooper he drove earlier in the decade, have much in common with the car in the picture :confused:

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 07:38 PM
What a pain:confused:. I understand the reason why you would think it is Pedro, as Ryan has pointed out to me, thanks for the link dude.

One of the sites I was on while I was researching this was strictly about the racer I'm referring to, it was all in German mind you:lol: so I only understood about 1/10th of what was being said. This was the only picture that wasn't a head shot of the man. His facial features would give him away in a second to any F1 fan. Also, the helmet was what had me convinced it was the same person. Hmmm, sorry guys:o. I'll see if I can find another picture.

saltysurprise
6th Jul 2007, 08:28 PM
Ok, let's try this again:lol:.

So far we know this. He's European. He has driven for both Cooper-Maserati and Lotus. He only has one championship to his name. He had a fascinating and tragic life/career. He wore a black helmet with a white visor. He has very distinguishing features and was adored by the media and fans for his balls-to-the-wall style of driving during the 60's. This is why I'm reluctant to put up even a picture of him in a car. If it is truly Pedro in my first picture, I apologise for throwing you off:o. My bad.

So, who is it? And what is his bizzare record. I even updated the original picture for you.

There, that should give you enough, even sans picture:D.

Ryan
7th Jul 2007, 03:31 AM
I got it....

It's Jochen Rindt.

The 1970 drivers champion who died at the Italian GP of that year and was named World Champion posthumously because Jacky Ickx failed to catch him in the final 4 races of the season that Rindt missed due to his death.

saltysurprise
7th Jul 2007, 03:42 AM
Well done:cool:. Told you we'd have it by the weekend. I musta made it too easy:lol:.

The next one won't be so easy! (I hope:o)

Ryan
7th Jul 2007, 03:49 AM
Well done:cool:. Told you we'd have it by the weekend. I musta made it too easy:lol:.

The next one won't be so easy! (I hope:o)

Aslong as you don't botch it in the horrible way which you did with this one.:p

saltysurprise
7th Jul 2007, 03:55 AM
Aslong as you don't botch it in the horrible way which you did with this one.:p

Heyyy! Easy pal! It was my first time:lol:! Muuuhahahhaha!

JoStream
7th Jul 2007, 07:33 PM
Well done:cool:. Told you we'd have it by the weekend. I musta made it too easy:lol:.

I got it....
It's Jochen Rindt.

Some additional research is needed :wonder:, particularly because the image is very small to make a 'positive identification'.

I took the information we discussed and did some searching on Google. I did find a bigger picture in an article that claimed it was Pedro Rodriguez in a Cooper Masarati T81 at the Nurburgring in 1966. That doesn't solve the puzzle though, because Pedro Rodriguez drove for Lotus that season (and the design of the car, contrary to my initial claim, is a Cooper Masarati).

From the bigger image, we can recognize the car number: 8. This is the key to this mystery, because Ricardo Rodriguez did not drive with the number 8 at the German Grand Prix in his season with the Cooper Team in 1967.

That leaves only Jochen Rindt, who did start with the number 8 on his car at the German Grand Prix in 1966 at the legendary Nurburgring Circuit.

That was a tough one, good job Ryan (and thanks Salty for the challenge ;))!

Case Closed :D