Rookie Question on BATracer Race Fuel

[EIR Loe.307]

Being a rookie sux. Most of my questions are stupid ones. I figure I might not be the only one so post your stupid rookie questions here with mine.

***My first question is, is fuel a part of the BATracer strategy? What I mean is has anyone run out of fuel, and what types of lap distances can you go on fuel? I was under the impression that you would need to factor that in but it seems that it more about the tire distance. I would love to make a 1 stop on hard tires in every race if fuel isn't a factor. Thanks

[Ryan]

You can't run out of fuel, it's not programmed into BATracer. It doesn't mean much in most series but would be a nice feature in F1 1986.

[EIR Loe.307]

You can't run out of fuel, it's not programmed into BATracer. It doesn't mean much in most series but would be a nice feature in F1 1986.


Thanks!! That might just change my strategy significantly. I had been using the current F1 rules in my decisions. I was setting up based on the required use of both hard and soft tires in a race and figured in fuel. I've since stopped with the tire thing. I've run all softs, all hards etc. I maay just run another 1 stopper in my next F1 race.:thumbsup:

[Harakimi]

1 stoppers in F1 2007 usually don't work. The time penalty for you with running on heavy fuel load is too hard. 2 stoppers are the way to go and sometimes even 3 stoppers.

[EIR Loe.307]

So I'm looking at my setup and I'm wondering.....What is low medium and high as far as the sliders. I was thinking on a 1-100 scale that medium would be 50 but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[saltysurprise]

So I'm looking at my setup and I'm wondering.....What is low medium and high as far as the sliders. I was thinking on a 1-100 scale that medium would be 50 but that doesn't seem to be the case.

That's just part of the wonderful BATRacer experience:rolleyes::lol:. Medium in my eyes is anywhere between 30 and 70. There is PLENTY of grey area for med-low and med-high. It just takes a little (ok a lot) of experimentation.

Now, If something doesn't go right for me soon in ANY of my games, I think I might just go postal... :mad: BATRacer and I aren't getting along very well lately:wonder:.

[EIR Loe.307]

That's just part of the wonderful BATRacer experience:rolleyes::lol:. Medium in my eyes is anywhere between 30 and 70. There is PLENTY of grey area for med-low and med-high. It just takes a little (ok a lot) of experimentation.

Now, If something doesn't go right for me soon in ANY of my games, I think I might just go postal... :mad: BATRacer and I aren't getting along very well lately:wonder:.

I've noticed that medium is a HUGE range. :lol: I haven't been doing all that great. I was up into p2 in champ b4 falling way back. Maybe it was A1GP:confused::rolleyes:

[Harakimi]

I start doing those "medium" setups in range of 40-60, depending on the track and weather conditions. Most important thing when doing setups is to do them systematically, recommended style is to narrow them in units of 16-8-4-2. So if you start at 40 and advice is to increase setting, then you move the slider up by 16 or 8 units. When you hit the value of 70 and advice is still to increase, then it might be wise to use 4 or 2 unit step coz it will be at "high" value soon.

If you really wanna rock, I can sell you a book "how to become a ultimate batracer" for meager price of 100$ :lol:

[JoStream]

If you really wanna rock, I can sell you a book "how to become a ultimate batracer" for meager price of 100$ :lol:

Why pay so much money when you got friendly WRF Mods like HaraKimi willing to help for free :lol: :rolleyes: :p

[EIR Loe.307]

Why pay so much money when you got friendly WRF Mods like HaraKimi willing to help for free :lol: :rolleyes: :p

Make it the "Official WRF BATracer Guide" sell it for bandwith revenue. Hehehe :lol:

[saltysurprise]

Make it the "Official WRF BATracer Guide" sell it for bandwith revenue. Hehehe :lol:

Speaking of which. I never got to get my 'Print' copy of that before it mysteriously dissapeared:wonder::lol:.

If anyone cares to plop that baby in my inbox anonomously, go right ahead;):thumbsup::D:cool:

[EIR Loe.307]

Has anyone messed around with this option? I didn't know what the advantage / disadvantage to setting the retirement setting to "no retirements" would be.

[Harakimi]

Cars won't retire from the race, they still take damage.

[EIR Loe.307]

Cars won't retire from the race, they still take damage.

Is there really any downside to that??

[Harakimi]

Everyone will use extremely high sliders, maybe someone likes that but I don't.

[Driverdb]

Retirements are a vital part of motor racing. How on Earth will I get good points if not half the field reitres? :D

[EIR Loe.307]

Retirements are a vital part of motor racing. How on Earth will I get good points if not half the field reitres? :D
You me and Salty...Hahahaha:lol:

The reason I asked is I was thinking about doing it in the WRF V8 game. Everyone that finishes gets points but we're about 1/3 to 1/2 way through the season and there have already been the retirements form past races.

[Harakimi]

I strongly recommend you to keep retires on. Unless you want half of the field using sliders at 100. :)

I've tried few midseason games with no retirements on, and found it that way. Lots of collisions, blocking and such. In V8's I could figure that we could race half of the race behind safety car. ;)

So thumbs down for no retirements. ;)

[EIR Loe.307]

I strongly recommend you to keep retires on. Unless you want half of the field using sliders at 100. :)

I've tried few midseason games with no retirements on, and found it that way. Lots of collisions, blocking and such. In V8's I could figure that we could race half of the race behind safety car. ;)

So thumbs down for no retirements. ;)

Good to know. I thought it might stimulate the guys at the bottom in the points standings, but from what you say, they can stay at the bottom. Someone has to lose right??:lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

New ?? Under the "Pit under Safety car" and "Reschedule pit stops" you can select a number of laps. My ? is....Say I am on a 1 stopper and I elect to pit under the safety car (per laps chosen), what should I put my reschedule # to to avoid a 2nd stop? Is that possible? I've gotten caught out in a couple games where I mysteriously made a 2nd pit near the end of a short race and lost out on the position I was in.

[EIR Loe.307]

You guys holding out on me or what?? :lol:

[Ryan]

If you select a 1 stopper, and have already stopped you won't stop again unless you have a problem with the car, collision, etc regardless of what the reschedule and safety car box say.

Usually if you make a mysterious pit stop it's because you forgot to click the save button and end up on a 2 or 3 stopper.

[EIR Loe.307]

If you select a 1 stopper, and have already stopped you won't stop again unless you have a problem with the car, collision, etc regardless of what the reschedule and safety car box say.

Usually if you make a mysterious pit stop it's because you forgot to click the save button and end up on a 2 or 3 stopper.

Is that true for if said stop was early due to safety car reaction?? I've set my car up on one stoppers and made 2 stops anyway when the initial stop was under safety car. (I think):rolleyes:

[Harakimi]

Is that true for if said stop was early due to safety car reaction?? I've set my car up on one stoppers and made 2 stops anyway when the initial stop was under safety car. (I think):rolleyes:

There is 3 factors.
pitstop strategy and your scheduled stops
safetycar reaction
pit stop reschedule

It's not that hard to figure out, even I managed to do that with my d- maths. :rolleyes:

[EIR Loe.307]

So much for a straight answer :rolleyes:. :lol:

I'm just saying in a 30 lap race on 1 stop set for lap 15 and a 14 lap reaction (tire wear not an issue and all) and I pit on lap 5. Being a one stopper is the reschedule # still taken into account. I would think no due to selecting 1 stop BUT if my reschedule is set to say 15 then I could potentialy pit on lap 20(?) even though I scheduled a 1 stopper. That's why I wanted to find out about the reschedule #. I have gone with 0 for my next race that that will be a factor.

(all #'s for example only)

[Ryan]

This has me very confused.:confused:

I kind of understand what you are saying but I've never heard of that situation before, even though when describe it it sounds like it would be a common problem.:confused:

[EIR Loe.307]

I've had it in past V8 games where you have a 1 stop race. I set up for my stop at mid-race but to react to the safety car and wouldn't you know 5-7 laps in there it is. I pit run up the field and then all the sudden make a 2nd pit. I'm all "WTF?!?!?" :mad:

I just wasn't sure if by setting it to zero on the reshedule if that would fix it OR if it would make me pit on lap 15 like it had been set to. I would hope that it would totally ignore the original stop settings and be done for the race.

[Harakimi]

I'm just saying in a 30 lap race on 1 stop set for lap 15 and a 14 lap reaction (tire wear not an issue and all) and I pit on lap 5. Being a one stopper is the reschedule # still taken into account. I would think no due to selecting 1 stop BUT if my reschedule is set to say 15 then I could potentialy pit on lap 20(?) even though I scheduled a 1 stopper. That's why I wanted to find out about the reschedule #. I have gone with 0 for my next race that that will be a factor.

(all #'s for example only)

Ok.
30 lap race, scheduled pitstop at 15
14 lap reaction
if you pit at lap 1, how many laps there is to avoid the scheduled pitstop at lap 15?

Descriptions:
Safetycar reaction
If a safety car appears when you are within X number of laps of a scheduled pit stop, you will make the pitstop then instead. Enter X.

Pit stop reschedule
If you make an unscheduled stop within X laps of a scheduled pitstop, you will pit the car and ignore the scheduled stop. Enter X below. Enter 0 if you do not want to reschedule pitstops.

[EIR Loe.307]

Pit stop reschedule
If you make an unscheduled stop within X laps of a scheduled pitstop, you will pit the car and ignore the scheduled stop. Enter X below. Enter 0 if you do not want to reschedule pitstops.

Still sounds like you run the risk of a pit on lap 15 by entering 0. However, I suppose in a 30 lap race you could set the reschedule to some # beyond 30 to ensure that you can't pit again in the race. :confused:

**Update**
Still sounds like you run the risk of a pit on lap 15 by entering 0.

If you set to 0 you WILL pit at the scheduled pit as well as under the safety car. It's been verified.

[Ryan]

oi!

If you run 30 lap race and set it to pit on lap 15 with a reschedule and safety car at 14, and a safety car comes out at lap 7 you will pit on lap and IGNORE the lap 15 pit-stop, thereby going to the end of the race. If it comes out on lap 1 you will not pit but will continue until lap 15 or a safety car comes out. After lap 15 you WILL NOT pit again.

If you do it's either:

A) a problem with car/collision

B) You messed up when you set the strategy.