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emmabro
4th Oct 2007, 01:30 PM
(My firts post on here so i hope i get it right)

On the news today they are saying that they are looking into Lewis Hamiltons Driver skills in the Japan Race ...
do you think this is "just" ?
:confused:

It seems that Mark Webber is unhappy for the way he drove under the Safety Car hmmm....

Ciao XxEm

JoStream
4th Oct 2007, 02:11 PM
You know I saw the video two days ago, and I was thinking how strange it is that they didn't investigate this.

What's interesting is that this footage was taken from a fan in the audience at the track! And now the stewards are investigating the matter further. It seems that Hamilton could have caused the collision between Webber and Vettel by slowing down too quickly (and suddenly) whilst still behind the safety car :eek:

"New evidence has been brought to the stewards' attention and they are currently investigating the matter," an FIA spokesman told autosport.com.
Webber had the following to say about Hamilton at today's pre-race press conference:

"It definitely contributed to Sebastian hitting me up the back that we were confused at what the other car was doing because he wasn’t doing what you are supposed to do," Webber said.

"I think he did a s*** job behind the safety car.
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Harakimi
4th Oct 2007, 03:55 PM
Too bad that the video is already gone, but it's all over the news. Hamilton accelerates and goes to the side of the safetycar, then brakes very hard. Webber has to brake hard because overtaking is illegal behind the safetycar and Vettel is watching elsewhere -> crash. I think Hamilton could be penalised about this.

Scumacher did this alot, and in Monaco 2004 Montoya hits the rear of his Ferrari in the tunnel.

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konami
4th Oct 2007, 08:50 PM
Franz Tost (STR) said he told the FIA about that movie. Not because he wants Hamilton punished, but because he wants Vettels 10-place grid penalty to be withdrawn :drunk:

konami
4th Oct 2007, 08:52 PM
Too bad that the video is already gone, but it's all over the news
download it

http://www.sendspace.com/file/uo9wa2

Ryan
4th Oct 2007, 08:57 PM
That's the first time I've seen it from that angle, and wow!

Hamilton just pulled over and almost stopped:eek:
What could Webber do?

EIR Loe.307
4th Oct 2007, 09:25 PM
Just to throw it out there, I saw a few guys doing similar things. The announcers were saying that the guys were trying to dry the brakes. Makes sense to me. I know in my car when the brakes are wet it's hard to stop so I can only imagine how much worse that would be in an F1 car at speed. I'm not saying that Hamilton wasn't overdoing it though. He did look a bit aggressive. Just my take on it. As far as Shumi at Monaco (which I watched live and almost threw my couch) that was all Montoya's fault :lol::lol: Just kidding.

EIR Loe.307
4th Oct 2007, 09:47 PM
Here's the vid is you want to replace your code and delete my post.

JoStream
4th Oct 2007, 09:56 PM
Here's the vid is you want to replace your code and delete my post.

Thanks EIR! :thumbsup:

hk77
5th Oct 2007, 03:14 PM
i think hamilton could have done a better job behind the saftey car, and should start from the back of the grid in china.
Howerver its not the case , he probably dosent even need to finish the chinese gp in the points to win the title.

although if he did start in the back of the grid, the title fight will be on fire.:confused:

emmabro
5th Oct 2007, 03:45 PM
well Hamilton has had no penalty for his driving under the safety car and vettel has only got a reprimand now:confused:

What a season 2007 has been :lol:

Good or bad for the sport :confused:
hmmm...
i'm undecided :eek:

Ciao XxEm

EIR Loe.307
5th Oct 2007, 09:25 PM
i think Hamilton could have done a better job behind the safety car, and should start from the back of the grid in china.
However its not the case , he probably doesn't even need to finish the chinese gp in the points to win the title.

although if he did start in the back of the grid, the title fight will be on fire.:confused:


He only needs to score 2 points more than Alonso and 7 more than Kimi to clench it.

I know he was speeding up and slowing down alot. I still agree with the announcer about the drying of the brakes. I also heard Jackie Stewart say that in the wet the mirrors are useless and that he probably couldn't tell where Webber was. He claims it is the drivers behind's responsibility not to hit him and so on down the field. I'm still not sure I like the way cars line up behind the safety car. I'd almost like to see a side by side, staggered grid formation behind the car. You almost have to call this one a racing incident. The FIA is getting entirely to penalty happy. I want the guys to go out and race and whoever gets the checker wins. If they cheat the fine, throw them a penalty. If drivers touch and take each other out too bad for them.

JoStream
5th Oct 2007, 10:05 PM
He only needs to score 2 points more than Alonso and 7 more than Kimi to clench it.

That didn't sound right :lol: (you actually made me go check it ;)). Hamilton simply needs to finish ahead of Alonso (and not loose more than 7 points to Kimi) to secure the title.

I also heard Jackie Stewart say that in the wet the mirrors are useless and that he probably couldn't tell where Webber was.

Looking back at all the information we have, I would have to agree that Hamilton is not guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. The conditions were 'unique' (as the FIA put it) and thus it's not fair to apply a standard approach to the incident.

We should also remember what is at stake. Did Hamilton gain an advantage by slowing down radically? Did he have to fear that Webber would overtake him? Surely not :rolleyes:

If the FIA would have given him a penalty, it might cost Hamilton a championship. If it had been Alonso behind him, the stewards would have probably given him the penalty. As much as it matters to Red Bull, nobody will remember whether they finished fourth or fifth. But everybody remembers a World Champion :cool:

EIR Loe.307
5th Oct 2007, 10:53 PM
They talked about the point spread on SPEED's friday practice broadcast. :lol:

It was announced that Hamilton will NOT be penalized by the FIA today. Glad that's over.