Brazilian GP 2007 Discussion

[Harakimi]

It's going to be very interesting last race of the season when 3 drivers have a change to win the title. Bridgestone is going to support the teams with soft and supersoft tyre compounds, which have been better for McLaren than Ferrari. Also the Interlagos track has got a new surface so the grip situation will be new for everyone. I'll not be surprised if we see very aggressive driving by Massa, Kimi and Alonso because they have nothing to lose. I won't even be surprised if Alonso and Hamilton collide. Fernando might think that 'If I'm not going to win, neither are you!'

Here is how the title is going to be settled:

Hamilton wins the title...

- If He wins or finishes second.
- If he is 3rd, 4th or 5th and Alonso doesn't win.
- He is 6th or 7th, Alonso is at most 3rd and Kimi doesn't win.
- If he is 8th, Alonso is at most 4th and Kimi 3rd.
- If he doesn't score points, then Alonso could be at most 5th and Kimi 3rd.

Alonso wins the title...

- If he wins and Hamilton is at most 3rd.
- If he is 2nd and Hamilton at most 6th.
- If he is 3rd, Hamilton is at most 8th and Kimi doesn't win.
- If he is 4th, Hamilton is out of points and Kimi is at most 3rd.

Kimi wins the title...

- If he wins, Hamilton is at most 6th and Alonso at most 3rd.
- If he is 2nd, Hamilton is at most 8th and Alonso at most 4th.

[MarathonMan801]

Thanks for that Harikimi. That's the kind of 'print-off-and-keep' guide I need to keep near me.
Is it okay with you if I post it (with accreditation to you) on another site?

[Harakimi]

Be my quest, there is no copyright on that. ;)

[MarathonMan801]

Many thanks!

[NetOz]

There is a problem with the track.....
They dropped paint in the senna S

[Harakimi]

There is a problem with the track.....
They dropped paint in the senna S

Humm, what does this mean? There is paint on the track somewhere or?

[saltysurprise]

That must be a helluva lot of paint for someone to take notice:wonder::lol:

I'm sure someone's unemployed now:lol: DOH!!:mad:

[NetOz]

Humm, what does this mean? There is paint on the track somewhere or?


Yes they were painting the curbs and they dropped paint in the Senna S

http://www.blogf-1.blogspot.com/

roll down the page and look at lambança em interlagos

[saltysurprise]

WHOOOPS! :lol:

I've had the joy of working with line paint before, it's not like you can just dab it up with some rags:rolleyes:. And that's a few gallons worth splattered all over:lol:

If they want to get rid of that, they're going to have to plane off some of the surface and re-cover it:wonder:

[EIR Loe.307]

WHOOOPS! :lol:

I've had the joy of working with line paint before, it's not like you can just dab it up with some rags:rolleyes:. And that's a few gallons worth splattered all over:lol:

If they want to get rid of that, they're going to have to plane off some of the surface and re-cover it:wonder:

They can't hit it with some solvent and a power washer?? That aircraft stripper is some mean stuff as far as paint goes.

[saltysurprise]

They can't hit it with some solvent and a power washer?? That aircraft stripper is some mean stuff as far as paint goes.

There in lies the problem. The paint is oil based and a pressure washer is water based:lol: The two don't go well together. They could have gotten a lot of it off with the PW, but there would be evironmental impact, blah, blah. And line paint dries pretty fast. It would be easier to just skim it with fresh black top I would think.

That's my professional opinion:lol::drunk:

[EIR Loe.307]

Me thinks they should have prepared the track further in advance. Not like they didn't know the race was coming up.

[saltysurprise]

Me thinks they should have prepared the track further in advance. Not like they didn't know the race was coming up.

AHHH! Logic!! Run!:eek::lol:

These thing happen:rolleyes: Believe me I know:mad:

[EIR Loe.307]

It's German but you get the point!

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I'm looking for a better vid though.

[Harakimi]

Alonso will be the only one to start the GP with worn engine out of the Ferrari and Mclaren drivers. Also the weather right now there is stormy, and humidity is over 80%. :lol: Go and check some weather .coms to see it by yourself but on weekend there should be 'occasional showers.' :rolleyes:

[NetOz]

now they are saying that the problem in the senna S is fixed

[JoStream]

now they are saying that the problem in the senna S is fixed

Well that's good news. Last thing you'd want is someone blaming spilled paint for losing the title :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

Well that's good news. Last thing you'd want is someone blaming spilled paint for losing the title :rolleyes:

Can you say: Crying over spilled "paint"?

[saltysurprise]

Can you say: Crying over spilled "paint"?

I'm disappointed..:wonder:

[EIR Loe.307]

I found this article about all teams getting a "fair play tzar". Pretty good stuff.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=33201

Just read through it, it's worth it.

[EIR Loe.307]

I'm getting all giddy about this race already. It comes on at 11am my local time so I'll get to get up and watch it live. I cancelled a football (american) game to watch the race. The Texans kinda suck anyway. :rolleyes: I keep running scenarios though my head. I think Kimi is going to be on it though. I think Alonso's exp. is going to count for alot as Hamilton may fold under the presssure. I don't see Massa doing his job either. Kimi NEEDS Massa to come in p2 and I hope to hell that it goes that way. That said I don't know if Hamilton will be smart enough to relax and not put himself out if he's behind Kimi.

I was wondering who is going to crash out (maybe with help) :wonder:. I'd almost expect a conspiracy where one of the Torro Rosso's takes out one of the McLarens on Kimi's behalf. Maybe Alonso brake checks Hamilton causing Hamilton to have to pit out of sequence.

Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! I can't take it. :drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk:

[emmabro]

ooh this weekends race is going to be one of those "i can't watch " moments:eek:
saturday i'll be glued to the Rugby (if i can bear to watch !)
then sunday i'll be pacing again watching F1:eek:
how am i going to survive al the stress:confused:
hmm i know maybe a drink or 2:drunk:
all i say is may the best man win...
(fingers x'd it's Hamilton:D ..if not then Kimmi will do fine :thumbsup:)
with as little stress to the viewers as possible :lol:
Xxem

[NetOz]

For sure this race is going to be one of the best of the whole season...
and i'm going to be there :D

[emmabro]

:eek:Netoz i'm jealous :sick:

[Ryan]

Raikkonen topped the charts of a wet 1st practice at Interlagos.

Hamilton was 5th and Alonso chose not to set a time on the wet track.

[Harakimi]

Raikkonen topped the charts of a wet 1st practice at Interlagos.

Hamilton was 5th and Alonso chose not to set a time on the wet track.

..and neither did BMW drivers and Fisichella. Now 2nd practice session started in little bit dryer conditions, guys going on track with soft slicks. They have done pretty good job with the surface of the track, it looks much more smoother than in previous years, cars are not bouncing anymore. I remember a race when Arrows? and maybe some other teams lost a rear wing on the main straight because all the vibration cars were suffering. This was maybe in practice because atleast Mika Salo's team back then didn't even start the race because of the safety issues, Ryan help me out in here. ;)

[emmabro]

it seems that Button,Hamilton and Sato are under investigation over a breach of tyre tyre regulations at this mornings first practice sessions:eek:
All 3 drivers are said to have used two sets of "wet-weather" tyres which contravenes some rule or other :rolleyes:
if found guilty these drivers may face a penalty but what that would be i'm not sure :eek:
hmmmm:confused:
XxEm

[saltysurprise]

it seems that Button,Hamilton and Sato are under investigation over a breach of tyre tyre regulations at this mornings first practice sessions:eek:
All 3 drivers are said to have used two sets of "wet-weather" tyres which contravenes some rule or other :rolleyes:
if found guilty these drivers may face a penalty but what that would be i'm not sure :eek:
hmmmm:confused:
XxEm

Oooh! And the plot thickens:cool:

I would guess time penalty of some sort. Perhaps a drive-through? :wonder:

[JoStream]

Oooh! And the plot thickens:cool:

I would guess time penalty of some sort. Perhaps a drive-through? :wonder:

They don't give drive-thoughs for infringements in practice or qualifying. Rumor has it that the drivers will pay a fine in the range of 15,000 Euros in addition to having one tyre set less at their disposal for the remainder of the weekend :wonder:

[emmabro]

your are right a 15,000 euro fine for Lewis and co :eek:
phew i was getting very worried :cry:
XxEm

[JoStream]

your are right a 15,000 euro fine for Lewis and co :eek:
XxEm

LOL :lol:, that was one good rumor ;)

[Harakimi]

15k's is about 10 minutes work for these guys? ;)

[emmabro]

you're right Harakimi...
but surely not the drivers fault :rolleyes:
do you think the pit crew get the fine:lol:
small fine for another attention grabbing incident:lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

You would think with all the pressure of the title and fairness etc. that at least you could count on not doing something dumb with the tires. Maybe Alonso's guy sabatoged the tire data. :lol::lol:

[JoStream]

Maybe Alonso's guy sabatoged the tire data. :lol::lol:

Or maybe he gave the person in charge of the tyres a 'Spanish Bribe' :lol: :p

[emmabro]

one question though:confused:
why bribe Sato's and Buttons too it's not as if they are any threat :lol::lol::lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

one question though:confused:
why bribe Sato's and Buttons too it's not as if they are any threat :lol::lol::lol:

No, I think Honda just screwed up. Hehehehe (and Super Aguri aka Honda jr.) :lol::lol:

[NetOz]

i fanally could find a picture of the problem with the paint on the Senna S being solved. here it is

well everybody knows that the problem was solved because everthing was normal in the practice sessions, but i was looking for the picture and i'm going to post it anyway :P

[saltysurprise]

Ahhhhh! Sand blasting works too! I forgot about that:lol:

Good work Oz:thumbsup: I was curious how they'd do it.

[Harakimi]

How the hell they were able to blast that amount of paint on the track? :lol::eek: Maybe one of those great drunken ideas.

"Hey letsh pain't the whole track!" :lol::lol:

Qually was again tight between 2 top teams. I bet that Alonso is not happy at the moment, we have interesting race ahead indeed. In q2 cars were very close to eachother. Massa seems to be on slight lighter fuel load than Kimi, Lewis and Fernando.

Red Bull :thumbsup:
Renault :confused: (can we have thumbs down smilie please please?):)

[saltysurprise]

How the hell they were able to blast that amount of paint on the track? :lol::eek: Maybe one of those great drunken ideas.

"Hey letsh pain't the whole track!" :lol::lol:

Qually was again tight between 2 top teams. I bet that Alonso is not happy at the moment, we have interesting race ahead indeed. In q2 cars were very close to eachother. Massa seems to be on slight lighter fuel load than Kimi, Lewis and Fernando.

Red Bull :thumbsup:
Renault :confused: (can we have thumbs down smilie please please?):)

I missed the whole damn thing due to work obligations:rolleyes::mad: It'll be serious couch time tomorrow though.

As for the paint Sam, I've seen a 5 gallon pail of paint go airborne off the back of a truck. That's pretty much what it looks like:lol:

"YOU!!... You're FIRED!!:mad:" :lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

I have a new reason to hate NASCAR!!!! SPEED secided that the Craftsman truck series run-over was more important to show than the F1 quali. so they showed F1 in it's entirety AFTER. So I know what you're thinking. "At least you didn't miss anything" WRONG. I DVR'd the session so I missed......30 seconds.....THE LAST 30 SECONDS!!!:mad::mad: Damn you NASCAR!!!!!!!!!

Great shoot out for pole though. I had to check the results after. I wonder if Massa will block to try to allow Kimi past??

[saltysurprise]

I have a new reason to hate NASCAR!!!! SPEED secided that the Craftsman truck series run-over was more important to show than the F1 quali. so they showed F1 in it's entirety AFTER. So I know what you're thinking. "At least you didn't miss anything" WRONG. I DVR'd the session so I missed......30 seconds.....THE LAST 30 SECONDS!!!:mad::mad: Damn you NASCAR!!!!!!!!!

Great shoot out for pole though. I had to check the results after. I wonder if Massa will block to try to allow Kimi past??

As much as I'd LOVE to agree with you, you can't blame NASCAR. Blame SPEED. Unless of course SPEED gets more money from Blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm sayin':rolleyes:;)

I missed all of it:mad: So waaa:cry:!

[Ryan]

TSN (Canadian station with F1 rights) did that last year for the Brazilian GP.

They showed a NASCAR race live and put the F1 race on tape delay.:mad:

[EIR Loe.307]

As much as I'd LOVE to agree with you, you can't blame NASCAR. Blame SPEED. Unless of course SPEED gets more money from Blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm sayin':rolleyes:;)

I missed all of it:mad: So waaa:cry:!


If there were no NASCAR, I would have caught that last lap. :cool:

[saltysurprise]

If there were no NASCAR, I would have caught that last lap. :cool:

Should we create a petition to have NASCAR banned?:lol:

I can see it now.. Angry mobs in Kentucky, Indiana and Alabama (I just chose 3 states at random:rolleyes:) chasing us with pitchforks!:eek: Run for it!:lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

Should we create a petition to have NASCAR banned?:lol:

I can see it now.. Angry mobs in Kentucky, Indiana and Alabama (I just chose 3 states at random:rolleyes:) chasing us with pitchforks!:eek: Run for it!:lol:

Just have their own channel so they don't get in my way again.

[Harakimi]

Teams found out that the super-soft compound is about 0.4 sec faster in Brazil than the soft compound. This is the first time in the season when tyres are this far from eachother. Super-softs also grain alot so they need to be watch out for more. I think out of the top 3 drivers Kimi is the best one to look out of his tyres, then Alonso. Not sure of Hamilton but atleast in China he wore his tyres much quicker than the other two mentioned before. And I don't mean just the accident where he got to, but there could be seen a huge difference already in their first pitstops.

[Harakimi]

30 more minutes, I'M ABOUT TO CRAP IN MY PANTS! :lol::lol::lol:

[Ryan]

Track temp is a whacking 63 degrees.:eek:

[Ryan]

Hamilton makes a mess of the start, and now things get interesting.

Oh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hamilton appears to have a major problem.

[Harakimi]

GOOOOOOO KIMI!!!!!!! :lol::lol::drunk::drunk:

[Ryan]

Raikkonen is looking better and better.

But Hamilton is now flying, and only needs 5th, it doesn't look like Alonso has the pace to win.

Kimi is having trouble keeping up with Massa.:confused:

That is possibly the ballsiest move I have ever seen in F1.:eek:

What a pass by Hamilton!

[EIR Loe.307]

There gonna have to "oops" Massa's next pit. COME ON KIMI!!!!!

Looks like Kimi's chipping away (slowly) at Massa's lead.

OOOOO! And Kovi's out hard!!!!

[Ryan]

Hamilton is 3 stopping. McLaren are in full desperation mode now.

I can't see this working...

[saltysurprise]

That closed the gap!:cool: Ooops!

I missed the first half hour.. Fishin' was good:lol:

Who got run over in the pits?? I just caught a glimpse of what happened. It looked painful:wonder:

[EIR Loe.307]

That closed the gap!:cool: Ooops!

I missed the first half hour.. Fishin' was good:lol:

Who got run over in the pits?? I just caught a glimpse of what happened. It looked painful:wonder:

Kaz Nakajima ran over his left side mechanics. :eek:

[Ryan]

Here's where Raikkonen is going to overtake Massa.

[saltysurprise]

But his right front tyre looks trashed!:eek:

I thought he would have pitted on that last lap..

[EIR Loe.307]

Yes Yes Yes Yes F**k Yes!!!!!!!!

[saltysurprise]

Wooo hoooo! I was on the edge of my seat for that pit lane exit!!:lol::drunk:

[Ryan]

Of course TSN/ITV went to commercial when Raikkonen came in.

[saltysurprise]

Of course TSN/ITV went to commercial when Raikkonen came in.

What a drag!:mad: They should have the exact same feed as SPEED. TSN can be a little hurtin' at times:rolleyes:

[Ryan]

And that's all she wrote.

Kimi Raikkonen 2007 F1 Drivers Champion.

[EIR Loe.307]

And that's all she wrote.

Kimi Raikkonen 2007 F1 Drivers Champion.

Nevermind tose lasp 13 laps huh?? Hehehehe:p:lol:

[saltysurprise]

Smoooth move Kubica!!:cool: Way to stay focused!;)

[EIR Loe.307]

Final Lap!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ryan]

Raikkonen is officially champion.

[EIR Loe.307]

Wooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[saltysurprise]

Could it be that we'll all get to see Kimi SMILE!?!?! From ear to ear:D

That was awsome! 110, 109, 109:eek:

Good one Kimi!!!:finishfirst:

How are you holding up there Sam??

:drunk::drunk::D:drunk::drunk::finishfirst:

[EIR Loe.307]

I'm still jumping around the living room!!!! :finishfirst::finishfirst: 2x for Ferrari!!!

[Harakimi]

Woo Hooo!!! Kimi ***** Räikkönen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[saltysurprise]

I still thought we would have seen a little more emotion from Kimi:lol:

Get this damn confetti off my face!:lol:

He looks good at the top of the podium, :finishfirst: hoisted o'er head:D

[M3Power]

great final race. well done for kimi, masa and ferrari. They would of never made it without massa though!

Well done :)

[Driverdb]

WHAT A RACE! :eek:

Congrats to Kimi! :finishfirst:

What a frustrating one for Lweis. First the mistake at the start and then when he's starting to pass people the car just dies and he has to start over again. I can imagine there was some swearing going on inside that helmet. :lol:

[saltysurprise]

I can imagine there was some swearing going on inside that helmet. :lol:

"Drats!"
"Golly gee whiz!"
"Oh bother!"
"My word!"

I can't invision clean-cut Hammy Hamilton uttering a bad word:lol:

[Driverdb]

"Drats!"
"Golly gee whiz!"
"Oh bother!"
"My word!"

I can't invision clean-cut Hammy Hamilton uttering a bad word:lol:

Didn't he say the F-word to Ron Dennis? :lol:

[Harakimi]

Unbelievable. I'm just out of words. All the bad luck Kimi has had over the past years now paid back in here. Wooowhee! Well I'm heading to Germany for a ~week so you can boast here for me, adios! ;)

[Ryan]

Nico Rosberg's Williams and the two BMW's are under investigation by the stewards for fuel irregularities.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547

If they are excluded and the championship "handed" to Hamilton, I'm done with F1.

From F1 Live:

AFP France are reporting this evening that both William Toyota and BMW Sauber are under investigation by the FIA following the Brazilian Grand Prix. Nico Rosberg finished a superb fourth today at Interlagos, chased across the line by Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld.

Details are not clear at the moment, but it seems there is a question mark over the fuel used in the 71-lap season finale and that has massive ramifications in terms of the outcome of the 2007 drivers' championship.

All we know at this early stage is that representatives have been called to face the Stewards from both Williams and BMW.

Raikkonen took the chequered flag this afternoon with rivals Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton third and seventh respectively. The result was that Raikkonen won the title by one point from the McLaren Mercedes duo.

Should there be any significant penalty applied to Rosberg, Kubica or 2Haiedfeld, Hamilton could be promoted from seventh position. A fifth place in the classification would give him the championship in what would be a very cruel and controversial manner.

[JoStream]

Nico Rosberg's Williams and the two BMW's are under investigation by the stewards for fuel irregularities.

If they are excluded and the championship "handed" to Hamilton, I'm done with F1.

Well, it was a great race. Everybody celebrated and now this crap :mad:

It's hard to believe that once they suspect irregularities in fuel that they turn out wrong. I'm really worried about Kimi's title. You know this stuff should have happened before the chequered flag. If they take the title away from him now, he will be devestated :(

[Ryan]

:eek::(:mad:

Article 6.5.5 of the Formula One technical regulations states: "No fuel on board the car may be more than ten degrees centigrade below ambient temperature."

The statement issued by Bauer showed that Heidfeld's fuel was 13 degrees centigrade lower than ambient at his first stop and 12 degrees centigrade lower at his second stop.

Robert Kubica's fuel varied by 14 degrees, 13 degrees and 13 degrees at his three stops; Nico Rosberg's fuel was 13 degrees and 12 degrees out at his two stops and Kazuki Nakajima's was 12 degrees out at his first stop. His second stop was inside the 10-degree limit.

Spyker technical chief Mike Gascoyne said he believed the variation would have provided a performance advantage.

"It can be five to ten horsepower easily," he told autosport.com. "The car is producing a performance advantage during the race. If they dump fuel in that is below the limit, it is an illegal performance advantage. They should be excluded from the event, there is absolutely no doubt."

[JoStream]

I highly doubt that they would do something like that intentionally. They are fully aware that the FIA takes fuel probes. It's like robbing a bank in front of the national guard :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

In 1995 Schumacher and Coulthard were DQ'd from the Brazilian GP for fuel regularities, then reinstated with the loss of constructor points only.

But in 1997 Hakkinen was DQ'd from the Belgian for fuel irregularities (I really wish the FIA would be specific about these things) and not reinstated (he was racing under appeal).

[JoStream]

In 1995 Schumacher and Coulthard were DQ'd from the Brazilian GP for fuel regularities, then reinstated with the loss of constructor points only.

That makes perfect sense to me because it was not the drivers' fault :wonder:

[Ryan]

That makes perfect sense to me because it was not the drivers' fault :wonder:

But if they gained a performance advantage and finished higher they probably would have... *cough*rosberg*cough*

To me it generally seems that the constructor points dealy is only done when the team does something against the rules but the cars performance is not improved via the breaking of the rules.

I remember in Austria 2001 Mika Hakkinen was DQ'd because the FIA approval seal was broken on his electronics box, but it was shown that nothing had been changed. Hakkinen was reinstated but McLaren lost the 10 points.

But in situations where the performance is improved via rules infraction, even if through no fault of the driver, he is excluded. See BAR in 2005. And unfortunate as it may be that probably is the right call.

EDIT: Grandprix.com now unofficially reporting that results of the 2007 Brazilian GP will stand.

[EIR Loe.307]

Man I took a nap after the race, I get up and SPEED is on going blah blah blah Kimi might lose the title.....whaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

I hate this crap. It seems like you can't go a single race where everything falls out as it should....ON THE TRACK.

[JoStream]

Man I took a nap after the race, I get up and SPEED is on going blah blah blah Kimi might lose the title.....whaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

What the hell is taking the stewards so long? I want to go to bed knowing that Kimi's title is secure :lol:

[DanicaRules]

The race today was the first F1 race I have watched from beginning to end. :o

[JoStream]

The race today was the first F1 race I have watched from beginning to end. :o

Good choice. I hope you liked it. We haven't had a three-way title showdown in over twenty years, so you are one of the lucky ones who watched this historic race ;)

[EIR Loe.307]

Grandprix.com now unofficially reporting that results of the 2007 Brazilian GP will stand.

They said that on "The Speed Report" too on SPEED. I'm waiting for it on F1.com though.

[DanicaRules]

It was open-wheel racing which is good. I just had a few questions so I posted them in a new thread. Im sure someone can answer them.

I also watched the Nascar race today, and unhappy that Johnson won.:(

[JoStream]

They said that on "The Speed Report" too on SPEED. I'm waiting for it on F1.com though.

Yup, a German source quotes information from the stewards that Kimi's title is official and that the investigation into the fuel probes taken will remain without consequences :D :drunk:

[EIR Loe.307]

It was open-wheel racing which is good. I just had a few questions so I posted them in a new thread. Im sure someone can answer them.

Hopefully you get to watch some more next season. The more you know about it the more you can "get into it". I'm trying to get more into IRL and Champ car too so you're not the only one here. :thumbsup:

[DanicaRules]

Hopefully you get to watch some more next season. The more you know about it the more you can "get into it". I'm trying to get more into IRL and Champ car too so you're not the only one here. :thumbsup:

I will be your go-to-man with the IRL. I love it !

I Am Indy

[saltysurprise]

I will be your go-to-man with the IRL. I love it !



I would never have guessed:confused::rolleyes::lol:

See? Ya learn sumthin new every day..

[JoStream]

See? Ya learn sumthin new every day..

YEA! Now THAT is the kind of attitude people like to see :drunk::drunk: :lol:. I'm gonna go get some sleep. It's been a hectic, but fantastic day in motorsports.

I think most of us feel the same way about Kimi winning the title. He deserves it and to make up a 17 point gap in two races is a task that requires a lot of patience and focus :thumbsup:

[saltysurprise]

I'm gonna go get some sleep. It's been a hectic, but fantastic day in motorsports.


Goo night Jo! I don't know how you young bucks can stay up 'till 4 or 5 am:confused::lol: It must be all the excitement:lol:

[EIR Loe.307]

Just announced on "Wind Tunnnel" "The FIA has just announced that there will be no penalty for the 2 cars due to some discrepancies in what the actual ambient temp was and if the readings on the fuel were accurate."

This means that Kimi is in the clear!!! :D:finishfirst:

[DanicaRules]

Sounds good. So, when does the F1 season start and how long of a season is it? How many races do they run ?

[EIR Loe.307]

Sounds good. So, when does the F1 season start and how long of a season is it? How many races do they run ?
Usually 17 (ish) races, I think they start in May. Not 100% on that.

[EIR Loe.307]

Just announced on "Wind Tunnnel" "The FIA has just announced that there will be no penalty for the 2 cars due to some discrepancies in what the actual ambient temp was and if the readings on the fuel were accurate."

This means that Kimi is in the clear!!! :D:finishfirst:

Or maybe not. DAMNIT!!!!!

[DanicaRules]

Usually 17 (ish) races, I think they start in May. Not 100% on that.


Ok. Well, for everyone's sake on here, I will try and watch more of it next year as long as it doesnt intefere with the IRL schedule.

[saltysurprise]

Ok. Well, for everyone's sake on here, I will try and watch more of it next year as long as it doesnt intefere with the IRL schedule.

Don't do it for us.. Do it.. For yourself:cool:

[EIR Loe.307]

I'm starting to see many more sources confirming that there will be no penalty for fuel irregularities. Pitpass, GPupdate, iTV and Speed have all "confirmed" it.

Now I finally see it on F1.com

In other news..Ron Dennis gets a constructor trophy after all.
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/10/22/dennis-gets-a-constructors-trophy/

And of course McLaren is appealing. They have every right to do so but it still sux.

[Racerpt]

I'm a McLaren fan, but after all the Spying controversy, i do think it's from a big bad taste, and with no moral at all, to Mr. Ron Dennis to appeal, even if legally, he has the right to do so.

Well done for Kimi. It's just a shame that he didn't do it in a silver suit :rolleyes:

Just a season to forget at all levels, so time to move on and think about 2008.

[NetOz]

Wow, what i nice race it was, simply fantastic.... i couldnt see wet why hamilton was on 7 in the begining of the race, Alonso putted him out or it was his mistake???

i'd like to see Alonso champion, but Kimi is okay, he did a race in Schumacher style :lol:

i'll upload a few photos and videos later, i'll put them on the rapidshare

Congrats to you Kimi :finishfirst:

great final race. well done for kimi, masa and ferrari. They would of never made it without massa though!

Well done :)


Yes, that its something very important to be remebered, i just hope as a brazilian that Massa dont become another Barrichello inside the Ferrari team :cry:

[Driverdb]

Wow, what i nice race it was, simply fantastic.... i couldnt see wet why hamilton was on 7 in the begining of the race, Alonso putted him out or it was his mistake???

Hamilton came third into the first corner and had Räikkönen right in front. Kimi then seemed to brake a bit in the middle of the Senna S's and Hamilton had to brake to avoid hitting him. That enabled Alonso to come up alongside Lewis. Lewis was then on the outside into the next corner and lost grip and had to take a stroll off the track losing several positions in the process. There was no contact made so Lewis has only himself to blame for that one.

[Oldnslow]

Seems to me all Hamilton had to do was slide in behind Alonzo after the start and cruise home to the title in 4th place. To me this was the most bonehead move I have seen in F1, and that is saying a lot....

Hamilton may say he's young and will get the title later, but there are many talented F1 drivers who have only one chance at the title and his was there for the taking in China and Brazil.

Great drive Kimi, fully deserving of the title, especially given the espionage by McLaren

[emmabro]

well that's it all over for another year :cry:and what a year its been :eek:
Hamilton really messed up big time:mad:
should have just kept his head down and stayed with the pack:)
there was no "heroics" needed:stop:
glad Kimmi won and as another McLaren fan i was sad it wasn't him in the silver suit :(
all this appeal stuff is just clutching at staws:confused:
and really don't think it would be right for Lewis to win that way :wonder:
the best F1 season in ages :D
can't wait for it all to start again next year:D
XxEm

[GreyKitten]

Yes, that its something very important to be remebered, i just hope as a brazilian that Massa dont become another Barrichello inside the Ferrari team :cry:

This is my worry, also. Yesterday was an uncomfortable reminder of the Ferrari dominant Schumacher days with poor old Rubens dedicating his own career to Michael's championships.

I'm a Hamilton fan but I also like Massa - I'd love to see him do well either with Ferrari or elsewhere.

[NetOz]

i've putted some videos on the youtube site.

F1 Kubica and Rosberg fighting each other
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Webber spins
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Lewis passing Heidfeld Gp Brasil 2007
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[saltysurprise]

Right on Oz:thumbsup:

That must have been really cool to be there to see it. Nice seats too:thumbsup:

[EIR Loe.307]

Now Hamilton is saying he doesn't want to win on appeal. This may play heavily on the decision of the appeal. There is also speculation that Hamilton hit the start button and that caused the software to glitch thus causing his slow down. I hope this come to a close soon. Hamilton even said that all this bs is bad for the sport. (not his words exactly)

[JoStream]

Now Hamilton is saying he doesn't want to win on appeal. This may play heavily on the decision of the appeal. There is also speculation that Hamilton hit the start button and that caused the software to glitch thus causing his slow down. I hope this come to a close soon. Hamilton even said that all this bs is bad for the sport. (not his words exactly)

I really respect him for saying that. It's of course good PR. Hamilton knows that he would lose a lot of his fans and that the racing world would disapprove of a title won in that fashion :rolleyes:

[EIR Loe.307]

I think tossing his title in China was what he needed to check his ego. I also regained some respect for him after reading that.

[Driverdb]

There is also speculation that Hamilton hit the start button and that caused the software to glitch thus causing his slow down.

Aah... he did a Mansell?

In the Canadian Grand Prix in 1991 Nigel Mansell was in the lead on the last lap and was already waving to the crowd when the car just stopped. Mansell blamed the gear box. But rumours from the team said that he had flipped the ignition-switch to off somewhere in all that waving. :lol:

[hk77]

congrats to kimi & ferrari on a well deserved title. no one out there deserved it more than kimi.

when lewis screwed up with the steering wheel and found himself in 18th position i thought, that he could make a drive like that of schumi's last year, but it wasn't to be. Also lewis onlt has himself to blame, for letting the title slip through his hands in the last 2 races. Had he maintained 4th after the start he would have won.

I dont understand the appeal situation, do they want to take the pionts from the drivers or the teams ?
it ought to be the teams, otherwise mclarens drivers should have had their point taken away too :cool:

[Driverdb]

Lewis doesn't seem to be too depressed. :lol: :drunk:

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[NetOz]

Kimi did something that only other two driver had done with Ferrari.
He won the world title in his first year with a Ferrari, that is something that only Fangio in 56, Jody Scheckter in 79 had done.

[alonso5]

Mclaren should be thankful that they weren't thrown out of the champioship completely and stop being such a bunch of sore losers

[F1 Ferrari]

Kimi world champion :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::finishfirst::finish first::finishfirst::finishfirst::finishfirst::fini shfirst::finishfirst::finishfirst::finishfirst::): ):):):):):)

:) Kimi is the best

[Harakimi]

WHOA! Settle down man! :lol:
I think you've made your point at being very happy with Kimi winning the championship. Lets say he is a 2 times champion after 08. :thumbsup: