View Full Version : Honda moves Barrichello to Super Aguri?
Harakimi
31st Oct 2007, 01:34 PM
Rubens has a contract for 2008 but F1 Racing magazine claims that the team has lost their faith in him after he was outpaced by his teamie Jenson Button. The magazine states that the team's engineers have become frustrated by what they see as a lack of effort on their driver's part. Barrichello scored zero points this season and therefore Honda has the right to cancel the contract.
Mike Comway, Luca Filippi and Andreas Zuber from GP2 are going to test Honda later this year and both Aguri drivers Sato and Davidson are also the names rumoured to step up.
It's sad that it seems that this sympathetic brazilian is going to leave his mark into history as another "future star" that never got there. Driving in the shadows of Schumacher didn't help him at all. Now only thing he can still accomplish is Ricardo Patrese's record as a driver with most GP starts.
NetOz
31st Oct 2007, 03:40 PM
This problaby is the last year of Barrichello in F1, i hope he stays in Honda and finish his carrier with at least a podium next year :rolleyes:...
but he did a terrible year so if he goes to super aguri it would be very bad for him, and his reputation that is not very good here in Brazil will be much more worst.
Well, but he deserves to be on Honda second team :mad:
JoStream
1st Nov 2007, 01:43 AM
RF1 Racing magazine claims that the team has lost their faith in him after he was outpaced by his teamie Jenson Button. Barrichello scored zero points this season and therefore Honda has the right to cancel the contract.
Even if they offer Barrichello a ride with Super Aguri, it would not be in his interest. His reputation as a driver would suffer, and I'm sure he won't make much money there either. I guess it's a nice way of recommending a retirement :rolleyes:
EIR Loe.307
1st Nov 2007, 01:48 AM
I think Honda was a bad move in the first place. I don't know if he was forced out or what but at the same time Honda really dropped the ball. Maybe next season they will take that sponsor $$ after all. :lol:
JoStream
1st Nov 2007, 01:52 AM
I think Honda was a bad move in the first place.
Was it really? I mean as a driver you look at the resources, the development, the technical crew and the management. All of that, at both Toyota and Honda, is there. And then you even get a juicy paycheck. But they are both case studies that show how much more is needed to be successful in Formula 1.
Barrichello had nothing to lose. There was no future for him at Ferrari considering his ambitions to win the title. I can't remember though the exact reason he gave for leaving... :wonder:
EIR Loe.307
1st Nov 2007, 02:01 AM
I think Honda was a bad move in the first place. I don't know if he was forced out or what but at the same time Honda really dropped the ball. Maybe next season they will take that sponsor $$ after all. :lol:
Maybe in hindsight it was. I mean had Honda continued to perform at the level they had been there might have been a chance. Look at Renault this year. Plop!! Or McLaren, you can actually finish a race now. I guess there are too many variables to account for these days. I hope they paint that stupid car (Honda)though. :lol:
JoStream
1st Nov 2007, 02:18 AM
I hope they paint that stupid car (Honda)though. :lol:
Yea, I loved their old paint and their theme 'Racing Revolution'. Don't know if they still have it, but maybe they decided to wait because of the delay. A revolution can't go on forever :lol:
EIR Loe.307
1st Nov 2007, 02:31 AM
Yea, I loved their old paint and their theme 'Racing Revolution'. Don't know if they still have it, but maybe they decided to wait because of the delay. A revolution can't go on forever :lol:
I really liked the all black scheme they used in testing prior to the My Earth Dream livery.
NetOz
1st Nov 2007, 03:11 AM
I can't remember though the exact reason he gave for leaving... :wonder:
Well he was tired of be the second driver in Ferrari, but durring the 2005 season when Ferrari was not fighting for the title there was at least two incedents that make him want to leave Ferrari, the USA grand prix, when Schumacher closed the door in the exting of the pit lane and Rubens avoid a colison by passing into the grass, and at the Monaco grand prix when Michael overtaked Rubens in the Final laps, when Ferrari told to keep their positions
EIR Loe.307
1st Nov 2007, 03:17 AM
Well he was tired of be the second driver in Ferrari, but durring the 2005 season when Ferrari was not fighting for the title there was at least two incedents that make him want to leave Ferrari, the USA grand prix, when Schumacher closed the door in the exting of the pit lane and Rubens avoid a colison by passing into the grass, and at the Monaco grand prix when Michael overtaked Rubens in the Final laps, when Ferrari told to keep their positions
To be fair though, Rubens was never in contention for the title and Schumi desperatly needed the points. Still, I see what you mean.
Harakimi
1st Nov 2007, 10:00 AM
I really liked the all black scheme they used in testing prior to the My Earth Dream livery.
Yeah that black scheme was cool, I hated this 'tree hugger' livery. A F1 that is both slow and ugly? NO NO :stop:
GreyKitten
3rd Nov 2007, 05:38 PM
I've always liked Rubens and I believe that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. If he hadn't ended up as Schumacher's support driver then I think he could have had a far, far better career than he ended up with.
He's also one of the nicest guys that's ever been behind the wheel of an F1 car and, with me, that counts for a lot!
Like others here, I expect that 2008 will be his last year. I hope that he can stay with Honda and not get moved to Super Aguri, he deserves better from the sport than being shoved to the back of the grid.
Rubens Barrichello - one of the good guys!
:)
Harakimi
13th Nov 2007, 10:14 AM
New Honda team principal Brawn is backing Rubens up. They know eachothers very well when they worked together in Ferrari for several years.
"The drivers are not an issue," he told reporters on Monday.
"On his day Rubens was as quick as Michael and Jenson is outstanding. They are as good as anyone. Let's hope we can give them the material to do the job," Brawn added.
JoStream
14th Nov 2007, 08:44 PM
New Honda team principal Brawn is backing Rubens up. They know each other very well when they worked together in Ferrari for several years.
Guess that debunks this rumor :). Brawn's addition to the team could not have come at a better time for Rubens.
DarkLord
15th Nov 2007, 10:19 AM
As per me he is a spent force in F1 he is occuping a seat for a deserving youngster.
hk77
15th Nov 2007, 11:45 AM
Guess that debunks this rumor :). Brawn's addition to the team could not have come at a better time for Rubens.
its true, but personally i dont think that barichello has anything more to prove in his f1 career. He wasnt even a very good # 2 driver. clearly he is past his peak, and i cant see how he could remain motivated after all these years.
his salary could bee the only valid reason why he is still in f1. obviously he has experience that the team could benefit from in some sort of way, otherwise he is just wasting someone else's chance in F1. :confused:
EIR Loe.307
15th Nov 2007, 10:25 PM
He wasnt even a very good # 2 driver.
He did place P2 almost as much as Schumi won races AND won a few himself. He may be past his prime. I'll agree, but to say he was never any good is a bit far.
DarkLord
16th Nov 2007, 06:18 AM
He did place P2 almost as much as Schumi won races AND won a few himself. He may be past his prime. I'll agree, but to say he was never any good is a bit far.
yeah he was good but now past his prime...
He should retire and vacate the place for some young rookie.
EIR Loe.307
16th Nov 2007, 06:40 AM
He should retire and vacate the place for some young rookie.
Or at least a veteran test driver. There are some very talented test drivers that are losing out on the new rules system and new talent. I think you should test for a team for at least a year first. Some of the new guys have tested for teams while competing in things like GP2 and I'm ok with that. Drivers like De La Rosa deserve a shot.
DarkLord
16th Nov 2007, 06:52 AM
Or at least a veteran test driver. There are some very talented test drivers that are losing out on the new rules system and new talent. I think you should test for a team for at least a year first. Some of the new guys have tested for teams while competing in things like GP2 and I'm ok with that. Drivers like De La Rosa deserve a shot.
What i feel is too much testing makes a driver lose his competitive edge. De La Rosa and Wurz are example they are exceptional as a test driver but when it comes to racing they are not competitive..
EIR Loe.307
16th Nov 2007, 07:16 AM
What i feel is too much testing makes a driver lose his competitive edge. De La Rosa and Wurz are example they are exceptional as a test driver but when it comes to racing they are not competitive..
I'll have to respectfully disagree on de la Rosa. At least partly. I think he did very well subbing for Montoya. I agree though that too much time as a test driver gets you out of the competitive "zone" That's why I think they should look to the testers sooner than to go with fresh meat. There are exceptions I guess. I really thought de la Rosa would go to Prodrive too. Oh well. I bet the testers get paid ok. He might be getting too old though. :rolleyes:
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