Force India 2008

[Harakimi]

As Force India bought Spyker and is most likely to have better financial status now, is their performance going to boost up? Their technical director is Mike Gascoyne who has a reputation of one of the most skilled person when it comes to developing the car. After he joined Spyker, at somewhere in the middle of the season they were able to catch up the top teams in the laptimes for about 1 second, but still were at the back of the grid.

According to the german media, veteran drivers Ralf Schumacher and Giancarlo Fisichella are going to test Force India in December at Jerez. Next week the testing sessios are scheduled for Adrian Sutil, Roldan Rodriguez, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Christian Klien ja Giedo van der Garde.

[EIR Loe.307]

They could be good mid-rear contenders next year. If they get the right drivers in there they could make some good improvements. Should be exciting to watch. I can't wait for the new season to start with the new rules. :D

[lewstherin]

Yes, after the B spec. was issued, Spyker, specially Adrian Sutil managed to achieve great races and results, for example in Spa and Fuji...

[JoStream]

As Force India bought Spyker and is most likely to have better financial status now, is their performance going to boost up?

It's not that easy to be successful in Formula 1. Even if you have the best engineers and the best drivers. You need to develop a corporate culture, work dynamics and much more :rolleyes:

A fancy name but I don't see them as a force for some time to come.

[DarkLord]

Its a new team and will take time to deliver results..will be gr8 if they finished in top 10 atleast once.

[Harakimi]

Team manager Colin Colles has said that Force India will make decisions concerning drivers after this week testing sessions in Jerez.

[EIR Loe.307]

Force India is expected to reveal its full driver lineup for 2008 in Monaco early next month.

Adrian Sutil is under contract to the former Spyker team for 2008, but the rookie German is also linked with a switch to replace Fernando Alonso at McLaren.

The second seat, meanwhile, is hotly contested, with established names including Ralf Schumacher, Giancarlo Fisichella, Vitantonio Liuzzi and Christian Klien among those vying to race for the Silverstone-based team.

(from F1-Live)

[DarkLord]

Force India is expected to reveal its full driver lineup for 2008 in Monaco early next month.

Adrian Sutil is under contract to the former Spyker team for 2008, but the rookie German is also linked with a switch to replace Fernando Alonso at McLaren.

The second seat, meanwhile, is hotly contested, with established names including Ralf Schumacher, Giancarlo Fisichella, Vitantonio Liuzzi and Christian Klien among those vying to race for the Silverstone-based team.

(from F1-Live)


What if feel If Sutil is still under contract then they will try to sell it to mclaren.. :D

Ralf has good relationship with Vijay Mallaya, he came earlier this year in india to promote Kingfisher/Toyota brand.

But mallaya has already told that he will select drivers on merit. I dont know what amount of money he is pouring in F1 team. If he is not investing more money he can choose driver who brings more sponsership money..:rolleyes:

[Harakimi]

Ralf has good relationship with Vijay Mallaya, he came earlier this year in india to promote Kingfisher/Toyota brand.


There is also rumours that if FI. signs Ralf, then Gasgoyne is going to leave because he hates him. :lol:

[CorvOwner]

There is also rumours that if FI. signs Ralf, then Gasgoyne is going to leave because he hates him. :lol:

Hmm, I didnt know gasgoyne and Ralf had bad feelings. What's the history here?

[Harakimi]

When Gascoyne was sacked from Toyota at 2006 he felt that Ralf was one of the key members resulting that to happen. They also worked together at Jordan in 1998.

[DarkLord]

Well i think Sutil + Liuzzi as drivers and Albers + rodriguez as test drivers for Force India team

Also there are rumors that Fisichella is also eyeing a seat in Force India since bariatore declared renault will be having new drivers for 2008 season :rolleyes:

[HondaF1Fan]

I just can't believe the name they chose:lol: Ok it's a Indian corporation and stuff but I just think it would have been better if it was abit more racey:)

[DarkLord]

I just can't believe the name they chose:lol: Ok it's a Indian corporation and stuff but I just think it would have been better if it was abit more racey:)

Whats there in name :rolleyes:;)

[shri_s123]

Hope he is able to turnaround the way he (owner of Force India) did his domestic airlines.

[JoStream]

Hope he is able to turnaround the way he (owner of Force India) did his domestic airlines.

I assume that did not go well :lol:, but thanks for the implied forecast ;)

[EIR Loe.307]

I assume that did not go well :lol:, but thanks for the implied forecast ;)

Huh, that kinda sounded to me like he did a good job. :confused:

[EIR Loe.307]

Looks like Ralf and Fisico will be testing the Force India car a Jerez coming up. They had been a team back in the Jordan days so who knows. It seems that one or both should make it to that team.

[Driverdb]

Looks like Ralf and Fisico will be testing the Force India car a Jerez coming up. They had been a team back in the Jordan days so who knows. It seems that one or both should make it to that team.

If Ralf manages to get a new F1 seat then there's no hope left for the world! :(

[EIR Loe.307]

If Ralf manages to get a new F1 seat then there's no hope left for the world! :(


Hehehehe, ya, I'm ready to see him retire of at least move on from F1.

[JoStream]

If Ralf manages to get a new F1 seat then there's no hope left for the world! :(

I couldn't agree more. F1 teams hire based on performance. Ralf was unable to deliver for the past few years and that is why I doubt even Force India will hire him. Unless he drives for free :rolleyes:

[DarkLord]

Both Ralf and Fisi dont deserve a seat. Liuzzi has good chance IMO.

[Blazing Lion]

I think Fisichella will get the second seat.

[Harakimi]

German newspaper Bild am Sonntag reports that Giancarlo Fisichella is going to have a seat at Force India with salary around 400k euros. The team will announce it drivers at thursday.

[Blazing Lion]

Dr.Vijay Mallya today announced that Giancarlo Fisichella will partner along with Adrian Sutil at Force India for the 2008 season.

[EIR Loe.307]

One thread per topic please!!!

We have a whole thread for Force India 2008


EDIT: moved :) -hk

[NetOz]

Fisichella in Force India team, he can help to develop the car, and Sutil is a great driver, i think we can see Spyker scorring some points this year

[DarkLord]

i dont think they will be able to score a point this year... may be they will finish in top 12 in one or two race. Mallaya revealed budget for ForceIndia is 120 Million USD which was around 65-70 mil last year for spyker. They are roping in Shah rukh khan as their brand ambassador in india so i guess they will be able to generate more interest in india, If rumors to be believed SRK has not charged a single rupee for this ad.

[Blazing Lion]

Vitantonio Liuzzi is the new test and reserve driver for the 2008 season.

i dont think they will be able to score a point this year... may be they will finish in top 12 in one or two race. Mallaya revealed budget for ForceIndia is 120 Million USD which was around 65-70 mil last year for spyker. They are roping in Shah rukh khan as their brand ambassador in india so i guess they will be able to generate more interest in india, If rumors to be believed SRK has not charged a single rupee for this ad.

I also read in the newspaper that he has not charged a single penny.

[Blazing Lion]

The launch ceremony of Force India's 2008 F1 car can be seen live on www.forceindiaf1.com at 1930 IST(Indian Standard Time) which is 5 and a half hours ahead of GMT.

[NetOz]

Here is the paint :sick:

[Harakimi]

Here is couple pictures more. It's not that bad looking in my opinion. The colour scheme reminds me of a beer can, and beer always is lovely! :lol:
Atleast I think it's better this way than the red-white livery what they used at tests.

[DarkLord]

Here is couple pictures more. It's not that bad looking in my opinion. The colour scheme reminds me of a beer can, and beer always is lovely! :lol:
Atleast I think it's better this way than the red-white livery what they used at tests.

well Mallaya is a liquer king and Kingfisher is a beer brand as well as an Airlines :D

[Harakimi]

well Mallaya is a liquer king and Kingfisher is a beer brand as well as an Airlines :D


Indeed!! HAHA! :lol: Force India just got into my favourite teams list! :cool::rolleyes::lol:

[saltysurprise]

Indeed!! HAHA! :lol: Force India just got into my favourite teams list! :cool::rolleyes::lol:

Have you tasted it? You might change your mind:lol:

It's certainly better looking than the Honda, that's for sure.

[Driverdb]

White seems to be the new black. BMW, Force Inda, Toyota, Honda and Super Aguri are all going to look the same if you don't have HDTV. ;)

[JoStream]

White seems to be the new black. BMW, Force Inda, Toyota, Honda and Super Aguri are all going to look the same if you don't have HDTV. ;)

Haha :lol:, maybe it is!

Seriously though, their livery isn't bad. I would give it an above average. What strikes me more is Fisichella, who really should have retired. When you see him it makes you wonder how he got onto the slippery slope. Let's be frank, is he going to lead Force India to their first WDC in the next five years? :rolleyes:

[Harakimi]

Haha :lol:, maybe it is!

Seriously though, their livery isn't bad. I would give it an above average. What strikes me more is Fisichella, who really should have retired. When you see him it makes you wonder how he got onto the slippery slope. Let's be frank, is he going to lead Force India to their first WDC in the next five years? :rolleyes:

Maybe not, but after being a Renault driver for few past years and being know as one of the fastest 1 lap man, I think he is going to be a valuable choise for this team.......retirement? Hopefully atleast in 2010. ;)

[HondaF1Fan]

I actually think it looks quite nice, not too bad at all in my opinion :)

[tamaucek]

Hey guyes!

I found some more pictures...
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I find the car boring :whistling:. They could have got a better paint job.

[Harakimi]

I find the car boring :whistling:. They could have got a better paint job.

HEY! Nothing boring in a beer can on wheels! :D

[JoStream]

HEY! Nothing boring in a beer can on wheels! :D

...that uses beer as fuel. Just imagine the millions of people that would take to the street protesting that beer is being wasted :lol:. OT :p

[StumpyManager]

i think that with more funding, they might definately overtake toyotas and most definately hondas. but they need better drivers before they start contending forreal

[Dunk]

You got to start some where haven't you

[StumpyManager]

guess so but just starting out doesnt count in the long run. im sure theyll be able to get to some sort of high end contention within their lifetime as a team

[tamaucek]

When F1 rises in india better sponsors will probably come themselves, but until then Force india is an ugly beer can :drunk:

[CWBeattie]

There's no such thing as an "ugly beer can"!

[JoStream]

There's no such thing as an "ugly beer can"!

Haha :lol:, well then you haven't seen enough brands because there are a few out there :stop:

[saltysurprise]

Haha :lol:, well then you haven't seen enough brands because there are a few out there :stop:

Didn't your mother ever tell you, 'It's what's inside that counts'??:lol::drunk:

[JoStream]

Didn't your mother ever tell you, 'It's what's inside that counts'??:lol::drunk:

Haha :lol:, that's a good comeback! Sure, but I think you're bound to be disappointed if you apply that concept to Force India ;) :p

[Waris]

LOL, some of the best posts above. Well, reacting to the guy who said 'they need better drivers', I would say that at this point Fisichella and Sutil are pretty good drivers for them, they bring speed and consistency. If the car gets better, they might be able to lure even faster drivers.