View Full Version : Confirmed: It Was Not Hamilton's Fault in Brazil
NetOz
20th Dec 2007, 08:27 PM
Here with this video where you can see that it was not Lewis fault what happened with the car, a lot of pepole incluing me were saying that he pressed the neutral button. but this vid confirmes it was not his fault
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JoStream
20th Dec 2007, 09:34 PM
Here with this video where you can see that it was not Lewis fault what happened with the car, a lot of pepole incluing me were saying that he pressed the neutral button. but this vid confirmes it was not his fault
If the neutral button is on the front side of the steering wheel, then we know that he didn't press it. That does not mean he did not cause the problem, because we do not know what kind of buttons are on the backside of the wheel and what might happen when a certain combination is pressed (for example by accident).
Nevertheless, McLaren explained the incident as follows
“We can confirm that the temporary gear shifting problem Lewis suffered on lap eight of the Brazilian Grand Prix was due to a default in the gearbox that selected neutral for a period of time. It was not as a result of Lewis pressing an incorrect button on his steering wheel.”
“It was a gearbox problem, and it went into forced-neutral and changing down seemed to rectify it - it might be mechanical, but we doubt it. If it was something mechanical, they usually don’t fix themselves. It could be electronics software - but there’s no evidence in the analysis to support that. Could be a sensor - but again, there’s no evidence in the data recordings.
“So it would appear that the barrels that change gear went out of control - and out of control of the driver - and that’s probably hydraulic.
“That could be either a very small Moog servo control valves that were interfered with by a tiny piece of debris or they are sensitive to magnetic interference - something generated a magnetic field which caused the valve to misbehave.”
hk77
21st Dec 2007, 03:16 PM
so it is clear that mclaren gives instructions to all its team members to lie :devil:.
I must say that it is trajic that a team that i respected and admired for so many years turns out to be cheaters and involved in industrial espionage. Atleast they will keep their colours for next season
Ryan
21st Dec 2007, 11:01 PM
I think I see what might have happened there.
Remember years ago when Hakkinen was running away from the field at Monza when he slid off at the first chicane? He down shifted too fast locked-up the rear wheels and spun off and the engine stalled.
It looks very similar there, except now the cars are fitted with anti-stall software which immediately kick the clutch in if the car is likely to stall.
JoStream
23rd Dec 2007, 09:24 PM
Remember years ago when Hakkinen was running away from the field at Monza when he slid off at the first chicane? He down shifted too fast locked-up the rear wheels and spun off and the engine stalled.
It looks very similar there, except now the cars are fitted with anti-stall software which immediately kick the clutch in if the car is likely to stall.
That's a great possible explanation. And from the footage, I tend to agree with you. But the only problem is that they surely have come up with more preventative technology since 1998 :wonder:
Ryan
23rd Dec 2007, 09:37 PM
But the only problem is that they surely have come up with more preventative technology since 1998 :wonder:
That's I'm saying. In 1999 the cars didn't have the anti-stall systems, but now they do. However the process for getting the car out of the anti-stall may be complicated, as it is not intended for use during a race (launch control prevents a stall on its own), and would only be needed for say pulling out of the garage.
And it tool Hamilton some time to deactivate it.
JoStream
23rd Dec 2007, 09:54 PM
That's I'm saying. In 1999 the cars didn't have the anti-stall systems, but now they do.
What I meant is a technology that does not only prevent a stall, but does not have any effect on the running of the car. In that case, you would not need to get the car out of anti-stall :wonder:
alonso5
23rd Jan 2008, 10:32 AM
i would not believe any statement made by lh or his team
JoStream
23rd Jan 2008, 10:11 PM
i would not believe any statement made by lh or his team
PR is part of any team these days. So it's important that you take messages on a case by case basis and cross-validate it with other sources of information. Sometimes it's accurate, sometimes not :wonder:
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