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NetOz
4th Jul 2008, 04:24 AM
With Team Lotus in dominant fashion with the new 79, Brabham arrived in Anderstorp with its two BT46s modified dramatically and controversially, with a large fan attached to the rear of the car. The team explained that the device was for cooling the engines. It soon became clear that the primary aim of the fans was to suck air from beneath the cars and improve grip. Rival teams argued that the fans were, therefore, illegal as they were moving aerodynamic devices. The cars also had the habit of hurling stones at cars which were running behind them.
The entry had reduced with Teddy Yip having given up with his own car and so Keke Rosberg appeared at the wheel of the second ATS, replacing Alberto Colombo. Also missing was the Martini team. This meant that there was no need for pre-qualifying as there were only 27 cars fighting for the 24 grid positions.

Mario Andretti was on pole position in his Lotus by seven-tenths of a second while the two Brabhams were second and third, John Watson ahead of Niki Lauda. Then came Ronnie Peterson in the second Lotus. Fifth on the grid went to Riccardo Patrese in the Arrows, although the team was involved in a court case with Shadow over copyright infringement and work was just beginning on the design of a new Arrows A1 chassis to replace the FA/1. Jody Scheckter was fifth on the grid in his Wolf, ahead of the two Ferraris of Gilles Villeneuve and Carlos Reutemann while the top 10 was completed by Alan Jones in the Williams FW06 and Jean-Pierre Jabouille's Renault.

The Brabhams were protested before the race began but the protest was rejected and the grid formed up as normal. Andretti took the lead with Lauda getting ahead of Watson, who was under pressure from a fast-starting Patrese. At the end of the second lap Patrese moved to third place and a lap later Watson had dropped behind Peterson as well. The Swede then battled Patrese and on lap 10 he took third place only to slow soon afterwards with a puncture. The order then remained unchanged until lap 20 when Watson disappeared from fourth position with a throttle breakage.

At the front Andretti and Lauda battled for supremacy while Patrese was a lonely third. Then came Reutemann, although the Ferrari driver was soon overtaken by Jones. Reutemann then faded back to fall behind the recovering Peterson and Villeneuve.

On lap 38 Andretti made a mistake and Lauda took the lead. Andretti could do nothing about the fan car and settled for second position but on lap 47 his engine failed. This put Patrese up to second and Peterson to third, the Swede having by then passed Jones. The Australian's race ended soon afterwards with a seized wheelbearing and so Laffite moved to fourth place. With a few laps to the Ligier began to run out of fuel and dropped out of the points, leaving fourth place to Patrick Tambay (McLaren), fifth to Clay Regazzoni (Shadow) and sixth for Emerson Fittipaldi (Fittipaldi).

It was left to the governing body to decide whether the Brabham fan car was legal or not...

Source : GrandPrix.com

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saltysurprise
4th Jul 2008, 05:42 AM
Interesting enough, but c'mon man! That's one of the most brutal C&P jobs I've seen in a while:eek: :stop: :lol:

Harakimi
4th Jul 2008, 06:03 AM
Good stroy anyways, better than link. :thumbsup:

The cars also had the habit of hurling stones at cars which were running behind them.


Heh didn't think this before but now it seems obvious, that must have been pretty annoying for everyone:lol:. I believe that Brabhams were hiding their real speed in qualify, just to get to race with this car at least once. Cornering speed between Lauda and Andretti is massive, just look how Lauda squeezes pass Mario. ;)

NetOz
5th Jul 2008, 03:50 PM
Cornering speed between Lauda and Andretti is massive, just look how Lauda squeezes pass Mario. ;)


Yes, it was amazing how much that car could grip to the ground, too bad was banned, but it was a great ideia from Gordon Murray

Interesting enough, but c'mon man! That's one of the most brutal C&P jobs I've seen in a while:eek: :stop: :lol:


lol yes it is a C&P job but its just to bring the story to everbody :lol: i'm going to do another one :devil:

saltysurprise
5th Jul 2008, 05:30 PM
lol yes it is a C&P job but its just to bring the story to everbody :lol: i'm going to do another one :devil:

Well, we all love Oz, so I didn't beat him up too much about it;)

It was the 37,000 links that were embedded in the text that I had to remove:lol:

NetOz
5th Jul 2008, 06:35 PM
Well, we all love Oz, so I didn't beat him up too much about it;)

It was the 37,000 links that were embedded in the text that I had to remove:lol:

hahahahhahahaha, dont worry next time i'll romove the links, but there are just so many :whistling:

EIR Loe.307
8th Jul 2008, 11:55 PM
hahahahhahahaha, dont worry next time i'll romove the links, but there are just so many :whistling:

Just hit ctrl+a (to select all text) then click the "remove link" icon here and make all your text black no underline. Does it all at once.

gt350pilot
9th Jul 2008, 02:03 PM
NetOz,
Just wanted to clarify that the application of the fan concept to an F1 car may have been Gordon Murrays but the original idea was not his.

The first application of this concept that I know of was by Jim Hall in his Chapparal 2J. It too was banned after only a few races and also had a clear advantage over the very best cars of its day. It ran in the Can-Am series in I believe 1970 but only a few races. Not a pretty car but very functional.

Unfortunately I don't have enough posts to attach pics.

saltysurprise
9th Jul 2008, 02:22 PM
NetOz,

The first application of this concept that I know of was by Jim Hall in his Chapparal 2J.

Unfortunately I don't have enough posts to attach pics.

I do!:D

Yikes! I'd never seen that car until just now when I googled it. wEiRd~:huh:

It's so ugly, it's beautiful:lol: In an ugly sort of way:sick::lol:

FAlonso
9th Jul 2008, 04:47 PM
I won plently of races in this car .. on GT4 :thumbsup:

NetOz
9th Jul 2008, 06:03 PM
NetOz,
Just wanted to clarify that the application of the fan concept to an F1 car may have been Gordon Murrays but the original idea was not his.

The first application of this concept that I know of was by Jim Hall in his Chapparal 2J. It too was banned after only a few races and also had a clear advantage over the very best cars of its day. It ran in the Can-Am series in I believe 1970 but only a few races. Not a pretty car but very functional.

Unfortunately I don't have enough posts to attach pics.

Thankz for the info m8 :D i didnt know that. and post more times it seems that you can bring a lot to the community :thumbsup:

gt350pilot
9th Jul 2008, 06:47 PM
Salty,
The 2j was definately not the best looking of the Chapparal series. Most of the other cars built by Jim Hall were actually very beautiful. The history of these cars is really quite amazing. They were responsible for quite a few innovations that are still used in current race car engineering. Among the innovations used for the first time were fixed and movable aerodynamic devises, mid mounted radiators, the use of automatic transmissions and for the first use of ground effects, rear diffusers and venturi tunnels (on the 2k Indy 500 winner).
Jim Hall was an incredible innovator and always thought outside the box as it pertained to car design. If you get a chance it is really interesting to read the history of these cars. Well worth the time of any gearhead.